Preaching is one of those things that can often be hit or miss. A person can be captivated, moved and even changed, but other times you have to fight to stay awake after 10 minutes into a message. Powerful preaching is something this week’s guest specializes in. We hosted a recent event at Upper House “Thinking Theologically About These Times” and we took advantage of having the guest speaker, Rev. Dr. William Curtis, in-house to hear his story.

William Curtis is a native of Baltimore. Since 1997, he has served as the Senior Pastor at Mount Ararat Baptist Church in Pittsburgh, PA. Dr. Curtis holds degrees from Morgan State University, and Howard University School of Divinity, and a Doctor of Ministry from United Theological Seminary. Aside from being a pastor, he is co-owner of The Church Online, a technology, and full-service marketing firm that provides services all over the world.

This episode’s guest interviewer, who you’ll hear first in the interview, is Dr. Marcus Allen, pastor of Madison’s own Mt Zion Baptist Church. Dr. Allen also serves on Upper House’s local advisory council and is one of our favorite partners in the city of Madison.

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Credits: music by Micah Behr, audio engineering by Jesse Koopman, graphic design by Madeline Ramsey.