In partnership with Science for the Church, we listen in on a conversation between pastor Chris Dolson, who has embraced science in ministry, and professor Rick Lindroth, who is a committed scientist, and Christ follower.

Chris Dolson is Pastor Emeritus at Blackhawk Church in Madison, WI, where he was previously head pastor for 27 years. Chris holds a B.S. in Biology from Indiana State University as well as a Master of Theology from Dallas Theological Seminary and a doctorate of ministry from Gordon-Conwell Seminary.

Rick Lindroth has been a professor of Ecology at the University of Wisconsin Madison for 34 years. He holds a B.S. in wildlife biology from Iowa State University and a PHD in ecology from the University of Illinois Urbana-Champagne. Rick has received many awards and honors for his work. He’s been a member of Blackhawk Church since 1985.

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Credits: music by Micah Behr, audio engineering by Jesse Koopman, graphic design by Madeline Ramsey.