A theme we return to time and again at Upper House is whole life integration. This means we desire to see Christians who have brought their faith to bear on every aspect of who they are: their minds and emotions, their actions, and their relationships—and also their work. It can often seem like the church is the primary way to serve God, but that’s not how the Bible portrays work.

In this episode, we hear from the executive director of the faith and work organization Made to Flourish. His name is Matt Rusten and he is sitting down with Upper House’s executive director, John Terrill, to talk about the importance of “closing the gap between Sunday and Monday”—erasing the artificial lines many Christians draw between the church and work life, and between sacred and secular work.

Matt Rusten received his master of divinity degree from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and has served in churches in North Dakota, the Chicago area, and Kansas City. Before entering his current role as exec director of Made to Flourish, he was pastor of spiritual formation at Blackhawk Church here in Madison.

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Credits: Music by Micah Behr, audio engineering by Jesse Koopman, graphic design by Madeline Ramsey.